What The Bleep? What do you think?

23Oct07

OK! So, I have four different posts in process right now, and I have hit a wall: I feel I need to revisit them when I am not focusing on finishing your final essay grades…

So instead, let us go down the “rabbit hole”….
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We have been watching the movie :What the Bleep Do We Know?

And I would love to hear your initial impressions….

Pretty wide open topic, huh?
Impress me with your honest thoughts.
Impress me further with these thoughts by drawing parallels to what we’ve been reading and discussing.
Blow me out of the water by drawing these connections to our class and other ideas you’ve been exploring!

Use links, share ideas! And…..GO!

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45 Responses to “What The Bleep? What do you think?”

  1. I’m really enjoying this movie. There are things in here that I can even relate to my geology class that I learned about and I felt like I was totally and completely understanding most of those concepts. I think there are some really interesting points and ideas brought up in the movie that I think anyone would find interesting. Such as the idea that what we see is not always the truth. In Ken Wilber’s ‘Attuned to the Kosmos’, he talks about questioning the world, seeking the truth, and the perception of others. What one person sees, might be different from what another sees. And for all we know, one of them is seeing the true object or event. Maybe Wilber isn’t just spurting out ideas from his head, but ideas that modern day science is taking a look into.

  2. 2 miamiace

    So far i feel that the movie is opening my eyes to everything around me and how it all is connected. I am having a great time watching it and can’t wait to continue with it next class. I like how our senses our a main focus in this movie and that even if you are not able to use one of them the others tend to take over and even out. For example the fact that the everything you see is not always there or true. Everyone has there own ideas and beliefs in what is real and what they see. I guess i will have to see what is in store for the next part of the film to make another well spoken post!

  3. 3 jhuereca

    I am really enjoying the movie, even though I thought that it would be kind of boring at first, it is surprisingly intertaining. I like how the movie is following someone through their daily routine and shows the different ways to look at her day. You can look at it in the physical manner, by just watching her go through her day, or even watch her day go by with the flashbacks that she is having. I like how the movie also showed that when we remember a certain emotion, we think of an event that went with it. Even if this emotion brings out really bad memories, like a failed marriage in the movie, we may brush away those feelings becuase we want to make sure that we are able to go on with our day happy. I agree with what aimzf said about Ken Wilber. With the piece that we read in class, he really does relate to this movie. In Wilber’s piece, Attuned to the Kosmos, he stated
    “I cannot be truthful with myself because that would involve such great pain…so I would rather lie about the whole thing (152).”

    I can’t wait to finish the movie in the next couple of classes 🙂

  4. 4 delgrosso

    After watching more than three fourths of the movie “What the Bleep Do We Know”, I tend to lean more towards the beginning half that was designated towards the explanation of the universe scientifically. Personally, scientific experiments and theories appeal to my understanding of the universe more so than religious beliefs do. It seems that I have picked and chosen what I feel suits me best based upon Catholicism as well as science.

    This movie has its own unique way of portraying different theories on life and by following a woman through her day it is easier to actually understand and relate to the emotional aspect of our body on the larger scale of the universe. I agree with jhuereca when stated that “this movie also showed that when we remember a certain emotion we think of an event that went with it”. Emotionally, when the present matter occurs, our cells can reprogram and almost transform back into the state that they were once in when the past incident happened. When I see a young child on TV riding her bicycle I am immediately placed back into the memory of my father teaching me how to ride my bike and I have a sense of fulfillment, because at that past moment I was care-free and blissful.

    Religion, on the other hand, can bring up different opinions entirely. I can’t say that if one believes that there is a creator of the universe that he cannot then believe in the scientific theories that are now being applied to the truth behind the universe. People seem to make their own “religion” if you will. There are the handful of people that do follow religions straight from the books but then there are a few like myself that take the ideas and choose what is believable and what is not based upon experiences and opinion. I believe there is a God that has created our universe in a way that the Big Bang Theory did occur. He has given us scientific phenomenon so that we can spend our time here figuring out the unknown. I disagree strongly with Steven Weinberg in A Designer Universe? when he states that “I don’t need to argue here that the evil in the world proves that the universe is not designed, but only that there are no signs of benevolence that might have shown the hand of a designer.” According to Weinberg the creator could have not possibly created evil, but I believe that this is an untrue statement and that our creator did in fact create malevolence just as he created the Big Bang Theory in order for us to spend our given gifts figuring out how to conquer these unknown that seem to be so ridiculous.

    As I said before the scientific aspect of the answers to our universe appeals to me more so than the religious aspect; this could be because there is a sense of truth behind science. Aside from this, I am going to bring to the table a theory that I am quite interested in: the String Theory. Physicists believe that protons and neutrons are made up of quarks and what were thought to be particles are actually tiny vibrating strings. Each string vibrates in different patterns which gives way to the theory that will create the fundamental particles for the universe. We are no longer made up of particles but strings. Give it some thought.

    Here’s a video from youtube..

    I understand it’s about 8 minutes long and if its not your thing it may be boring– but if you just skip to about 2 minutes into the video it explains the theory thoroughly

  5. 5 robyn123

    I am enjoying the movie, though I am not able to understand everything that is being explained. The movie relates to the most recent reading assignment, A Designer Universe? by Steven Weinberg. The author states that physics is a better position to give us a partly satisfying explanation of the world than religion (780). I also agree with aimzf that the movie relates to Ken Wilber’s “Attuned to the Kosmos” when he talks about questioning the world, seeking the truth, and the perception of others. Both Weinberg and Wilber discuss the concept of perception, the view of others and how the universe was created. I hope the rest of the movie is just as great.

  6. 6 fetzer

    The film, “What the Bleep Do We Know” is probably one of the weirdest, but most interesting films that I have ever seen. The first day that we watched the film, I was very confused and did not know why we were watching it. Although I still think it was weird, I ended up enjoying it, and finding out the answers to what the film is about and why we watched it in the first place. In my opinion, it is basically telling us that life is really what we perceive it to be, not what others think of it. It talks about our feelings inside our bodies (from happiness to evil), and how all these feelings run our entire lives. One part of the movie that stuck out in my mind was the part with about 100 basketballs bouncing on the court at one time, and then going back to just one kid dribbling it. This caught my eyes because there was a lot of action going on at one time on the screen. At first I didn’t get what was going on, but by paying attention I came to realize that the boy is showing her that our focus on one thing is actually what makes the thing exist at one place and time. Our physical act of looking at the object (in this case the basketball) makes it a real thing in that time and place. It was described to be known as quantum physics. . To me, it seems like the main character is living her life in a blur, and it not experiencing life to the fullest. She is focusing on what happened in the past, and not on the future. She lets her emotions get the best of her at times. After reading present posts, I agree with what jhuereca said when she stated that “I like how the movie also showed that when we remember a certain emotion, we think of an event that went with it. Even if this emotion brings out really bad memories, like a failed marriage in the movie, we may brush away those feelings because we want to make sure that we are able to go on with our day happy.” It think that she does not understand this until the very end of the movie where she finally learns to take a deep breath, look at herself in the mirror and appreciate herself for who she is. She no longer lets her emotions get the better of her.

  7. 7 jenncook

    Even though I’m really not a science person at all, I still find the majority of the movie interesting. It presents all these ideas in a colorful and interesting way, so it’s not boring. Also, instead of just having professionals talk about these ideas for the whole movie, seeing some of them through the actors and actresses makes it much more enjoyable. Of course the animated cells in our body and all that is entertaining as well.
    I agree with the majority of the people before me. The main connection I see between the movie and what we’ve been discussing in class comes from Ken Wilber’s “Attuned to the Cosmos.” I see in the main character, Amanda, that she wants to see only what’s convenient for her, not always what is true. This applies, I think, to the last blog as well. Many of the ideas expressed in that blog as well as in all of our posts about the concept of an “inconvenient truth” relate to the film. We sometimes believe the inconvenient truth because we don’t want to be consumed by negative emotions like Amanda sometimes is in the film.

  8. 8 samanthagallo

    When we first started the movie I wasn’t sure if I was going to like it. All the talk about the universe and how we see things, was really throwing me off. Then as the movie progressed it started to gain my interest more. As the side story started to unfold, I was able to focus more. And the relationship between the people talking and the story started to connect. In it they talk about how we tell ourselves we’re fine when we aren’t, and we portray this onto others. In, Attuned to the Kosmos, Wilber states that “and because I lie to myself—and then forget it is a lie—then I will lie to you without even knowing it.” The two relate through that fact that if we tell ourselves something enough times we are going to start to believe it. And this is where I agree with the majority of the people before me. We all feel that the movie relates to our reading, Attuned to the Kosmos. There is a lot to do with seeing and experiencing only what we want, because we don’t want to get hurt. We put a filter up to process everything and change it to what we want to see.

  9. 9 matticks

    The movie we are watching, “What the Bleep Do We Know”, started off very scientific and it looked like most of us were lost and confused. Yet, it was still very interesting and related to everything we have been reading this week. In the movie, they were talking about theories and explanations about everything around us just as in Our Picture of the Universe by Hawking. When I read Hawkin’s essay I thought his thesis was this, “The eventual goal of science is to provide a single theory that describes the whole universe”. This is also what I got out of the beginning of the movie. All of these very intelligent people have donated their life to science, and have spent so much time trying to explain it; and eventually to explain the world around us.
    Later in the movie the main focus took a turn. The movie started to focus more on the psychological aspects of the world, and how we go about life thinking of ourselves and the world around us. In my opinion, the movie was at its highest point when it incorporated the personal life of the main character. It was most interesting to me how they portrayed her altered perception of the world. I started to wonder, “Do I also have an altered perception of the world?” I think we all do. This relates to Can We Know the Universe by Carl Sagan. He explains by stating:
    “Our intuition is by no means an infallible guide. Our perceptions may be distorted by training and prejudice or merely because of the limitations of our sense organs, which, of course, perceive directly but a small fraction of the phenomena of the world”.
    The last portions of the movie that we have seen focused mostly on our perceptions of the world. How we see ourselves, and others around us. Body image is just one example that was in the movie and is a very large part of many people’s lives. I do agree with Samantha and Jen above on how the movie related to Attuned to the Kosmos. Altered perceptions of our world relates to how we are able to live a lie, and pretend all the time. I just think that this movie was more easily related to the scientific and more recent readings from this week.

  10. 10 itsmiseo

    I’m going to go off the topic of truth and perspective and mention a part of the movie that really caught my attention.

    After the main character misses the train and looks at the display of snowflakes that took on the characteristics of words that were taped to the bottle of water, the creepy guy comes up to her and says something like “If we can do that, imagine what we can do to ourselves.”

    To supply an example of what Weinberg asks on pg. 784, when he poses the question “how does free will account for cancer,” I believe in such a situation where it is partly free will and not God. There are many cases where I have heard of older couples that when their spouse dies unexpectedly, the other will be diagnosed with cancer only months later. This, to me, is an example of free will, showing that when someone loses the highlight of their life, the will to live, or lack there of, may play a role on the makeup of cells in the body. We are made up of 90% water, why wouldn’t we have an effect on ourselves? Just like the snowflakes, we have control over the atomic attributes of matter; we control of our bodies.

  11. 11 pennello

    I think that this movie is crazy. I like it but it is crazy. I especially liked the parts where they were explaining the chemicals that influenced emotions. I thought it was funny how they used the blobby things to make it more understandable. The people in the movie explained a lot about the universe which is what we are debating in class.I have to agree with what robyn123 said in her post. This movie ties in very nicely to the topics that have been discussed in class and takes our disscussions into a whole new meaning. It really brings up the question of how much we really do know about the universe and how much more we want to know. Not only does it discuss that, but it also talks about people’s lives and how what we think and observe has a lot to do with what is going on in the universe. I have to say at first I did not like the movie because it was way too scientific, but now as we move through the movie and it goes from a high magnitude of science into a more understanding and explanitory movie, it is getting much easier to watch and understand. This movie has opened my eyes to the magnitude of our universe.

  12. 12 jillian12

    When we first started watching this movie I felt completely lost, and was wondering why we were watching this in a writing class. It felt like something I should be watching in a physics class. However, come the second day of viewing this film, I started to see connections with the past readings we have had. The movie has become rather interesting, and like itsmiseo, I was really interested in the water molecules at the train station. Like the weird man said to Amanda about imagining what we could do to ourselves, I actually started to think about that. In my psychology class we are learning about behaviors and conditioning, in my textbook it said something along the lines that optimistic people tend to live longer. This is also brought up in Weinberg’s “A Designer Universe?”, when hes says,”…how does free will account for cancer? Is it an opportunity of free will for tumors?” p.784. I agree with this because I know from experience that my grandmother was diagnosed with breast cancer at age 42. That same year my aunt had gotten pregnant, married, and divorced. This had greatly stressed out my grandmom, and the next thing she knew she had cancer. This all ties back to the fact that we are made up of 90% water, and how awful the water molecule looked that was angry. So one can only imagine what the water molecules looked like inside of my grandmom during that very stressful year.

    I hope that the ending of the movie turns out to be as good as the rest of the movie.

  13. 13 afhock21

    I was only able to see the first day of the movie. Like most people commented.. I wasn’t sure what to expect at first. It seemed a little off topic, and a little more related to physics than writing. As the movie went on I found it very interesting how they showed the main character, seeing what she wanted as opposed to what could be true. Most of the things discussed in the movie could be related back to our readings. Like aimzf stated, I mostly related this to Ken Wilber’s piece, ‘Attuned to the Kosmos’. While his essay talks about questioning the world, seeking the truth, and the perception of others.. the movie allows you to see it, which gave me a greater understanding of the concept. Once i get a chance to watch the end of the movie, I’m sure I will have more to comment on.

  14. 14 dancingrl425

    Personally, I enjoyed this movie from start to finish. I loved the part about the water that was experimented with. Especially how something as simple as taping a word to a bottle of water and then freezing it can change the appearance of the water up close. It kind of makes you think, if you label yourself (not physically, but mentally and spiritually) will you eventually become whatever it is you think you are? For example, If someone tells themselves they are ugly and fat every day will they actually become ugly? The movie sort of shows this when the woman says she hates her reflection over and over again. Soon she was throwing toothpaste and she was a mess. Once she decided to tell herself she was pretty she began to look healthy and better looking. Itsmesio talked about the same thing in his reply when he said , “the creepy guy comes up to her and says something like “If we can do that, imagine what we can do to ourselves.” Others took it a different way. They said that the woman in the movie was pushing her fears of herself away, which was true in the beginning of the movie. Jhuereca talks about Wilber’s writings and how he thinks it is better to lie to yourself to avoid pain. I think this movie proves that this theory is wrong. The woman was much happier after she accepted herself.
    Likewise, I think this movie related to Plato’s “The Cave”. He talks about how the people in the cave are chained down to look one way. This already reminds me of how the woman is forced to take her meds and tell herself she should be one way. Then Plato asks what would happen if those people were taken out into the light, to see the truth? He says they would never want to go back, they would be much happier. Again, when the woman finally accepts herself she realizes she never wants to go back to those days of being chained down mentally.
    Pennello said that they thought the movie was more interesting since they used those animated blobs during some parts. I think it definitely helped keep my attention and understand it more. Overall, this movie was pretty interesting and I’m glad we watched it in class because I never would have thought to rent it otherwise.

  15. 15 w8ting4science

    I definately agree with basically what everyone else has written, however dancingrl425 has a good point about humans labeling themselves, and then becoming what we perceive ourselves to be. There are obviously times throughout the movie where I am just completely lost, but at the same time the whole concept of everything in the movie is mindboggling! To me, it’s somewhat like in the movie Animal house when professor Jennings is explaining to Pinto how our whole solar system could be one tiny atom in the fingernail of another giant being, and how one tiny atom in my fingernail could be another whole universe. A lot of the concepts discussed are hard to grasp, but i think the movie definately ties back to the things we’ve read in class. A lot of what we’ve talked about refers back to seeking truth, being what we perceive ourselves to be, becoming what we’re destined to become, determining history, and seeing things for what they should be. I think that this film ties in very nicely (in a roundabout way however) by using examples such as when the girl dwells on her past and allows it to affect her present in numerous different ways. Also I found it interesting how the two girls perceive themselves versus how they perceive each other. The artsy roommate seems more willing to just find the truth in things and see things for how they are, and the girl that’s deaf seems to see things for how she wants them to be (like what dancingrl425 talks about) and can’t escape her mental blocks.

  16. 16 joneslaur

    I was intrigued but the same part as itsmiseo and dancingrl425. The effect the words had on water were astounding! I did believe, before viewing the movie, that our thoughts translated largely on our personality. I was stirred to do further research on the thought process, and I was thoroughly surprised by a particular article by James Allen titled, “The Power of Thought: Effect of Thought on Health and the Body.” The opening sentence was: “The body is the servant of the mind.” He continued, “The body… responds readily to the thoughts by which it is impressed, and habits of thought will produce their own effects, good or bad.” (www.experiencefestival.com/a/Power_of_Thought).

    I found it somewhat funny how through the whole movie the scientists basically disagreed with the bible, however when discussing how the thought process effected the body, they urged the importance of change. I remember one scientist spoke about change…he commented we have to be willing to change enough that we, basically, are no longer ourselves. This reminded me of how the Bible commands those (who follow it) to strip off the “old personality and put on the new.” That was one of the first correlations I saw scientist (probably somewhat unconsciously) agreed with the Bible.

    Words make up our thought process, no? The idea of the dramatic difference that just words had on water…should motivate us all to examine if we’re seeing the glass half full or empty.

  17. 17 babyblue2842

    So far the movie has been really interesting and has opened my eyes to many new things I never would have imagined. At first I wasn’t sure if it would be interesting due to the numerous scientific talk, but it turned out to be really good. I especially enjoy the side fictional story because it makes it easier to understand all the science talk.
    I agree with daningrl425 about the water. I really enjoyed learning that taping a word or phrase to the bottle can change its appearance. When the lady presenting the water in the movie said our bodies are made up of 98% percent water, it made me think about how my emotions make my body react. If I’m sad or upset, does my body react with my mind?
    Throughout this entire movie it has made me think a lot about things that are thought to be impossible, but are really possible. I agree with samathagallo about “Attuned to the Kosmos.” This movie and that reading are similar because “Attuned to the Kosmos” talks about lies becoming so real that the person telling the lie believes it. In this movie people believe that things like the basketball court is not possible. It has been engrained into our minds that these things can’t happen. So when scientists try and tell us that they are possible, we don’t believe it. (We have to see it to believe it.) I hope the end of the movie turns out to be as good as the beginning.

  18. 18 walush

    At the beginning of this movie, all the scientific facts were presented and I automatically shut the movie out in my head. As I continued to watch, they brought into the play one girl’s life. We walked through a normal day of this woman’s life and different ways of to look at her life. One quote from Ken Wilbur really stood out to me in ‘Attuned to the Kosmos’. He talks about questioning the world, seeking the truth, and the perception of others. While we go through this girl’s life, we see how she sees the world differently then other people. She seems to question everything that is going on around her and just wants to know the truth.
    One part that really stood out to me was the emotions part which took place at a wedding that the girl was a photographer for. Her emotions were shown as little jelly blobs and you could hear how each emotion reacted. I found that quite amusing. This is a picture of these emotions acting up. This particular one is lust. http://thecia.com.au/reviews/w/images/what-the-bleep-do-we-know-1.jpg
    Everyone who wrote before me seemed to mention something in someway about the “incontinent truth.” This is definitely something that I noticed in this movie. To me, it seems like the young girl is seeing what she thinks is happening but in reality it’s all in her mind.
    I can’t wait to see the last ten or fifteen minutes of this movie. I really want to know how this will conclude.

  19. 19 gallowaym

    I find this movie to be so complicated, and yet intriguing at the same time. It has left me confused at times, but at the same time it makes me question if what I’ve learned to be truthful, really is truthful. For instance, the scene with the basketball. The movie goes into great detail about how when we hold a basketball in our hands, we’re not actually touching it. Although this has a physiological reason as to why we aren’t , really…why can’t we just be touching the basketball instead of complicating our minds. The challenges this movie has presented and had scientist explain are ones that most see as simple, everyday things. The movie takes it levels above and breaks down the reasoning why. Things aren’t the way we see them to be. I agree with many of the other responders to the post with relating the movie to “Attuned to the Kosmos” because that also questions the truthfulness of certain situations, like what we see isn’t always what it seems.

  20. 20 dpinkston

    What the Bleep Do We Know? has been interesting thus far, because it really makes you think about things. I remember sitting watching the part about the water and it leading to a series of tangent thoughts about life. It’s amazing the trains of thought that have spawned from watching this movie. The explanations used are pretty easy to understand considering the challenging material they’re covering. Some of the parts are a bit cheesy, like the cells, but they do still help you to understand. The topic is really interesting and not something I can say I ever really thought about before. I love when things inspire to think beyond what we generally ponder. I like w8ting4science’s train of thought about perception. It’s vaguely reminiscent of some of the works we’ve read. I also like the Animal House example. The scale of things is really astounding.

  21. 21 srosato

    When we began viewing this movie, I have to admit that I wasn’t very interested as to where it was going or what it was about. First of all, the movie opened up with a comic type scene where pictures of people’s faces were pasted onto drawings of bodies. These faces were then manipulated so that the eyes and mouth would appear to be moving as if they were human like. If you ask me this scene was a little creepy and weird and I personally felt that it was a very unique way to begin a movie. Second of all, the first hour or so of this movie was focused on the discussion of quantum physics and different scientific theories. These topics may be interesting to some people, but for me, I was a little lost with the information that was being presented and, therefore, I became bored. But after viewing the second half of the movie, I was able to get past all of the science jargon and focus on the central message that was being portrayed through the actions of the main character.

    The overall message that this movie is trying to convey is that people live their lives in a dense fog, unable to see reality. Just like fetzer, I believe that the main character, Amanda, lives her life by putting up walls that not only protect her from the truth, but also helps her to build up a false reality that allows her to avoid the truth. Throughout the course of this movie, Amanda’s walls are broken down by events that trigger her past memories of an unhappy life with her ex-husband and, therefore, she is forced to face reality and to take control of her life.

    This scenario exemplifies what we’ve learned in the beginning of the year about truth, perception and reality. In the reading “Attuned to the Kosmos,” Wilbur states that “validity claims force us to confront reality…they demand evidence from the rest of the Kosmos; they force us outside of ourselves.” These validity claims that are stated in this quote are claims that wake people up from a conscious slumber and help them get back on track with their lives. In the movie, one of the claims that help Amanda come to terms with her past was when she was at the wedding and accused the groom of cheating on his bride. But soon she realizes that she had mistaken another man as the groom and, therefore, she comes to the realization that not all men are like the man that she had married.
    So in all, this movie may seem a little out there at first, but once you get further into the story that involves Amanda and her false reality, you will be able to make connections and realize that life isn’t worth living unless you live it to its fullest.

  22. 22 bboscamp

    When “What the Bleep Do We Know” first came on, I thought that these were going to be the longest few classes ever. It was bad enoough that I had to listen to these things during Science class, but now in Writing also!? But I tried to look at it openly and I am glad that I did.

    The part of the movie that stuck out to me most was the part where Amanda, the main character, was in the bathroom looking at herself. The image that she was seeing was the complete opposite of what she really looked like. I feel like I can relate this to what babyblue2842 stated in “Attuned to the Kosmos” when she spoke about lies feeling so real you begin to believe them as the truth. For some reason this scene really made me think about reality. I think that is what this movie tried to portray to us. It wanted us to explore the universe in which we live by putting it into terms we could understand. For example, at the wedding where the people are attracted to others, I did not think about everything that actually goes on with hormones. I know that it was depicted to be funny and corny, but it really makes you think about what your body functions do!

    I thought that this movie was interesting, but slow at parts. It was worth watching but not something that I would have gone to seen on my own. It was a nice break from the reading =)

  23. 23 ericakulp

    About this movie What the bleep”, I missed last fridays class and a huge chunk of the movie. So mondays class i spent playing catch up and asking Samantha (the girl i sit next to) what was going on. When i fianlly realized what this movie was about i did find it quite interesting. The part that really caught my attention was when the main character Amanda, who is unfortunatly deaf, is staring at herself in the bathroom mirror. She began to have visions of what she was going to look like when she got older and began to upset hersef. When she started yelling, it was hard to understand what she was saying. I’m almost positive that she kept repeatidly calling herself ugly. When she picked up the toothpaste i was really unsure what she was going to do with it. I was really affected by the movie when she broke the mirror. It was easy to see how hurt she was. No one should have a low self esteem like that.

    I am going out on a limb here when i compare this movie to Plato’s, “The Allegory of the Cave”. I feel that Amanda can be compared to the characters in Plato’s story because she has a disability that makes it difficult to view the world like a person with all 5 senses. However, i would not say that Amanda is “chained down” like the characters in the story, and only able to see blurred images infront of her. This character is able to see the world as it is, but i guess you can say that her hearing is “blurred”.

    I’m going to be completely honest when i say that i did doze off in the end of class yesterday. It’s not that i didn’t like the movie, i was just very tired. Im hoping we can rewind the movie a little tomorrow so i know what i missed! if not, im pretty sure ill be able to figure it out. Other than that, i can’t wait to see how the movie end and as dancingirl425 says i would not have watched this on my own time, but im glad i did =]

  24. 24 vpomparelli

    We’re almost at the end of the movie in our class and I really enjoy this movie because it deals with what we’ve been reading in class. It basically is taking what we’re reading about, the confusion over truth and it goes further to say that there is more than one reality. I think it most relates to Attuned to the Kosmos because it’s our own brains that are causing such confusion over truth. It’s our society that makes us think that if we don’t think a certain way that we must be crazy. However, it takes our reading from a writer and makes a movie with lots of scientists.

    The movie takes this perspective of many realities from a scientists point of view. I had no idea what quantum mechanics even was until this movie introduced it and I found it to be very confusing at first but the scientists do a good job of explaining it. It also helps that there is a sort of storyline that we can follow and cartoons to help explain.

    I agree with gallowaym on the basketball scene and it being interesting. It really is almost scary to think that while we’re not looking things are really going on around us and that boy was kind of creepy. I also feel the same way as dancingirl425 about the water experiment. I though it was really interesting to see that just a prayer from a Buddhist monk could change water into this beautiful crystalization when frozen. I didn’t completely understand what they were trying to explain but I enjoyed what I understood of that segment.

    I also do not think I would have watched this movie on my own but i’m glad I did because it made a lot of interesting connections to our readings and even to my own way of thinking.

  25. 25 possessky

    I found What the Bleep? pretty interesting. The most interesting part for me was the water and its crystalization and the man that approached the main actress. He said, “If thoughts can do this to water, imagine what thoughts can do to ourselves.” this thought is so deep and I love it. When I look at the pictures the ones that are based off happiness and love are the most beautiful ones, while the ones based on hate and killing were ugly. This can be very true for us as well. Someone who is happy and loves is usually viewed as beautiful not necessarily because of their outward appearance, but their inner appearance. If someone is full of hate and hurts others, they usually appear ugly to us. My two examples are Mother Theresa and Charles Manson. Extreme opposites I know. Mother Theresa cared for everyone and went out of her way to love and help them no matter where they were. This made her appealing and beautiful even though she may not have physically looked it. While Charles Manson may have had a decent face, his personality made him ugly because he was filled with hate and killed.

    I also agree with Wulsh’s relation to ‘Attuned to the Kosmos’ and its relation to seeking the truth. Once people fine the truth about themselves this can make them beautiful once they accept it. If they don’t accept it though, it can make them ugly.

    I’ve also attached a link to the pictures of the crystalized water if anyone wanted to see them. http://www.life-enthusiast.com/twilight/research_emoto.htm

  26. 26 fensterb

    I do enjoy this movie; however, I find it to be confusing at times. It is interesting to learn about the world and how everything really interacts because I never thought of it in that way before. One of the things in the movie that I really liked was when they showed how we link things together, like at the wedding. She kept having flashbacks of her own wedding and kept comparing hers to the one she was working at. I really liked this because I always do that. This movie is like “The Need for Discernment” because they both deal with decisions that effect other people. I also agree with everyone else that this movie deals with how what we see is not always the truth. Parker J. Palmer said, “The less we talk about truth, the more likely that our knowing, teaching, and learning will be dominated by a tradional and mythical model of truth, the objectivist model so deeply embedded in our collective unconsious that to ignore it is to give it power.” This related to the movie because all of the beliefs we had, this movie questioned and everything we thought we knew we are finding out isn’t true. Overall, I really liked the movie even though it was confusing.

  27. 27 kelly4

    Like a lot of other people said, at first I was skeptical. I had no idea we were watching this in a writing class, but as the movie continued I began to like it even more. My favorite part of the movie is the part with the wedding. I really like how it portrays the events through the camera as well as through the cells. Like a lot of people said, I see a connection in WIlber’s Attuned to the Kosmos, but I also see a connection in our last post, about perception. This part of the wedding has a lot to do with perception as well. For example, how she thinks the husband is cheating on his wife. Also after the wedding scene, when the main character percieves herself as fat. This portrays a lot about perception and how people see things. The movie goes on to tell how the different people believe that if you believe something of yourself, that’s what others will see. For example, if you see yourself as pretty and outspoken, this is what others will perceive. Like Jill12 said, I can also relate this movie to physcology class. We have talked about perception, and that a person who is more optomistic is more likely to like a longer, fulfilling life. Overall, I did enjoy the movie, although there were parts that I was very lost at.

  28. 28 jral27

    I believe this film is the most bazzare movie I have ever seen. The concepts throughout the film are for the most part difficult to comprehend and very confusing. However, I do think there are some valuable points for example, one point is that the way you feel on the inside can determine how people see you. If you are very confident in your appearance then everyone around you will see that and if you are insecure people will see that part of you come out in everything that you do. Another viewpoint that I have is that towards the end of the movie, they explain how the body acts by means of proteins and receptors. This information was very clear to me since I have studied biology. And like daningrl425, I also liked the part of the movie when it explored the water formations when certain moods were pasted onto the molecule. Overall i still feel that this movie was very complicated and that it introduced so many ideas and I thought it jumped around way to much.

  29. 29 denigris

    The movie (What the bleep do we know?) was a very interesting movie. It had many different but interesting ideas and outlooks on life. My favorite part of the movie was when they described the water crystals. I found this to be an interesting topic that just by putting emotions around samples of water they can actually become beautiful snowflake patterns. This quote that was stated in the movie really caught my attention “If thoughts can do this to water, imagine what thoughts can do to ourselves.” I really loved this quote, it showed that we as humans can do anything if we put our mind to it. This brought me back to when we read Wilburs “Attuned to the Kosmos.” Sometimes we can try to make oursevles believe that we are something other than what we truely are deep down inside. I know from experiences that this can happen; it happens when you surround yourself with new people,you go to a different area, you try to fit in but deep down inside it is not really who you are within. I agree with all the posts above about seeing a connection with “Attuned to the Kosmos”. It just makes perfect sense we as human beings convince ourselves of something and then we start believing it is true. I also see a connection with the reading ” A futile Pursuit Of Happiness” by lying to ourselves we are not living honestly. Our thoughts can play a big role in who we are, I feel as if we underestimate them and take them for granted because in the long run our thoughts are what creates us as people.

  30. 30 vpec13

    I as well, am enjoying the movie alot. I did miss the first day which may affect my perception of the movie a little bit. But, from what I have seen, it is very interesting, and brings up many interesting points. But it is very confusing in some parts, and I feel they contradict alot of what they say. My favorite part of the movie is the part about the water, and how the crystals form with positive and negative feelings, and I feel what the one man says, “if thoughts can do this water, imagine what thoughts can do to us”. I feel is a very powerfull quote. It is true, thoughts can affect us in very extreme ways, thoughts can decide weather we choose to live or die, choose to make the best of our lives, or just sit inside a room the rest of our lives. Thoughts and other peoples thoughts affects society very much, including us teenagers and youth across the country. So I agree very much with the post above me, I feel it is one of the most important parts to this movie.

  31. 31 longca

    I also agree with DeNigris and everyone else who has posted before, in the movie “What the Bleep do we know?” The quote “If thoughts can do this to water, imagine what thoughts can do to ourselves.” this quote does show and tell us what damage our thoughts can do to ourselves. Our thoughts tell us what we believe is the truth and how we react different situations. In the movie, the main character has anxiety and her thoughts make her see things in different ways than others, this is how I feel we all live in our day to day lives. Our thoughts also let us decide what the definition to truth and happiness means to each of us. We may lie to ourselves each day to the point where we do wind up convincing ourselves that what can be a lie is the truth. This also relates to our most recent essay and readings, how can we determine what truely does make us happy or unhappy. Our thoughts are the ones that tell us what the differences between the two feelings are, and how we can find each emotion.

  32. 32 ndileone

    Not including the fact that I was absent for the first day of the film, I believe this movie to be quite confusing. The topic they are discussing is very broad, and it seems as though it is trying to squeeze to much information in a short amount of time, and it jumped around from topic to topic too frequently. One of the quotes I have recorded from the film is, “You have addictions because no one has taught you to learn better.” Where another quote I wrote down states, “People think god isn’t with in, we ourselves are divine only one god self with in each person.” When I look back at both quotes from the film, I have no idea what they have to do with one another, and thats how I felt through out this entire movie. I know, I may sound a bit harsh, and there were many good points in the film, but it all was too much to make alot of sense for me personally. I agree with jral27 when he/she says that this movie is defined as being bizarre.

  33. 33 pdarms

    I cannot honestly say whether I liked this movie or not. To me, it really didn’t fit into any genre that I know of, so I tried to watch it as something else, like a documentary. Also, I was late for class one day, but I only missed about twenty minutes of the movie. The biggest problem I had with the movie was that I flat-out didn’t get any of the material it covered. I’m absolutely terrible at science in general; I find it boring and pointless. It seems like most of my classmates feel the same way. Nevertheless, I found some parts of the movie pretty interesting. The intellectuals in it were experts in their fields, and did their best to explain the material in ways that someone like myself could understand it. The part about the water, explained by the Japanese guy, was what I found the most interesting. It actually made me think about what was going on with water. I also liked the part at the wedding where they played “Addicted to Love,” which is a sick song. In addition, the crazy German lady covered some interesting topics. Looking at the film as a whole, it was well-made, with humor thrown in. The special effects were pretty cool. My opinion on the movie, however, is still neutral.

  34. 34 shawt

    I agree with samanthagallo with the quote she used from Attuned to the Kosmos, Wilber states that “and because I lie to myself—and then forget it is a lie—then I will lie to you without even knowing it.” This goes in hand with the character Amanda who is death, in the movie. She was obviously going through some kind of depression of anxiety
    attacks. She didn’t want to tell anyone or get any help form anyone. She was basically lying to herself and everyone around her. I’m going to speak for everyone when I say,”What the HELL, this movie is CRAZY!!” haa that was my first reaction….I feel that later on as the movie progressed I became very interested, and very amused.

  35. 35 chelxc

    Despite the abnormality of this movie, I found it quite interesting. I thought it was unique how the scientific concepts were presented in a simple understandable manner. As far as my favorite part of the movie, I agree with Pdarms when she says the concept of the water particles is the most interesting. Water particles can change into beautiful crystal shapes when they are complimented. Does this mean the water particles have emotion? I liked jillian12’s connection with her grandmother, with our bodies being made up of 90% of water and when a person becomes stressed and angry, they can inflict damage upon their own bodies without realizing it.

    In class when we were talking about “The Futile Pursuit of Happiness”, we talked about how if you don’t understand values and important concepts for ourselves, we are not truly happy and honest with ourselves. In a way this reminded me of Amanda in the movie. Like srosato stated, she seemed like she was keeping herself from the truth. She seemed to not be honest with herself and accept the truth and that caused her to be stressed about life and cause unhappiness.

    Like most people, I agree this was mostly related to “Attuned to the Kosmos”. I agree with afhock21 when he stated that while the essay is questioning the world and speaking of seeking the truth, this movie actually takes you in depth in exploring it. This is what I found the most interesting.

  36. 36 krissssy

    This movie really opened my eyes to the crazy world around us. I especially liked the part with the cells and how the brain sends signals to the cell to act a certain way. It is interesting to see that if you act a certain way every day your cells will have more responders for that certain attribute. So if your personality is a bossy one, your cells will crave the bossy feeling and develop more responders for it.
    I also enjoyed the part about the water and how it is so strongly effected. If the water crystals were beautiful when the word love was written and attached the the container and ugly when something mean was written does that mean that water has intelligence to read and comprehend language? I find that extremely far fetched, but in the case of water reacting to a feeling, I think is possible. So if I am feeling depressed, can we take a water sample form my body and find that the water crystals are ugly? I wish that I could find more information on Dr. Emoto to see if he experimented with water from humans.
    I would have to disagree with most of the other posts and say that I really enjoyed the movie. I would like to watch it again with my boyfriend because he is a science major and is interested in quantum physics and I wouldn’t mind watching it again to be able to understand the parts that I missed the first time.

  37. 37 jesssprung

    The beginning of the movie I did not think I could possibly be anymore lost. It bored me in the sense that I did not have the slightest inkling of what was going on. When it got to maybe the 2nd or 3rd day it not only became more clear but also more interesting. I was able to actually comprehend the ideas the movie was trying to portray. I was unable to do so at the beginning because science has always been my weakest subject. Once they started using the goofy diagrams and pictures and cartoons, I was able to register what they were talking about.
    Personally, I like to think outside of the box which is why I have really enjoyed the past few weeks conversations. Pieces such as “The Futile Pursuit of Happiness” allows us to discuss what we personally feel about values pertaining to the individual. I have enjoyed the combination with the movie(when I understood it) and the pieces when they talk about things we usually do not think about. In our everyday lives we talk of gossip, television, celebrities, the weekends, and the occasional politics. In conversations such as the Jane Goodall pieces, we were able to talk about the thoughts and feelings of chimps–not quite your everyday conversation(slash movie)..but hey..I appreciated it!

  38. 38 vecere

    Like krissssy one of my favorite parts in the movie, was when the topic of water and how it can react to our emotions. The point was made the the majority of our body is comprised of water, which definitely supports the idea that emotions can affect the physical state of our body’s. I thought the movie was a little scattered, but posed some very good questions and made a lot of good points.
    One example that really made me think was the two dimensional figure not being able to comprehend what three dimensional meant. It made me think about human beings and the experiences and knowledge that we could be missing due to the limited perception created by our very few senses. There is so much that is unknown with our world and universe. I believe that there are so many of these things that will remain unknown due to our limited perception of reality.

  39. 39 scastles

    This movie made me think in a way I have never thought before… and I thoroughly enjoyed it. It’s been said many times before in this blog, and has just been said by “vecere”, but the scene in the movie when the woman is at the train station and learns about how water effects us, is absolutely amazing. This part of the movie made me realize that how we perceive things really effects us (as stated earlier, a concept we discussed in our Intro to Psych class). Our attitudes, emotions, and even actions are all up to us, whether consciously or subconsciously. Referring to “vecere” once again, the ending of the movie discussing 2D vs. 3D, although it was oddly portrayed, was mind-opening as well. It made me think that although our perceptions of our world and ourselves becomes the truth, as shown in the water scene, our perception is limited and therefore are unaware of the majority of our outstanding universe. (a similar point made by Sagan in “Can We Know the Universe?”).

    Sagan opens his essay with a quote/poem from Ralph Waldo Emerson, and I thought it would be appropriate here:

    “Nothing is rich but the inexhaustible wealth
    of nature. She shows us only surfaces,
    but she is a million fathoms deep.”

  40. 40 samanthasutton

    This movie actually made a lot of sense to me because I think about this kind of stuff all the time. The reason I am agnostic is because I feel that the minds of humans are very limited. We can only expand our minds so much, and trying to figure out how we were created and why we are here is probably too complex of a thought for us. There are many things in life that we will always try to figure out, but the answer will just always escape us, just because we are limited with the way we think. We are like the 2 dimensional square in the movie…we can only see what we know because we don’t know any different. I do agree with the others who have compared this movie to “Attuned to the Kosmos”. I think that because we are told the same lies over and over again we begin to believe it is the truth and that is why we as humans are limited in thinking. Religion is so important to us. Almost everyone grows up being taught there is at least some type of man in the sky who will judge you and if you are good you will be allowed into some utopia called heaven. Who knows, this may be the truth, but if it’s all we know, and if it keeps being shoved into our brains, then how can we think any differently. I liked the part where they said humans are addicted to religion because it’s true. Even though I no longer believe Jesus is God, nor do I believe “God” is a man, I still pray to him, I still celebrate Christmas; I still even make the sign of the cross sometimes because it’s what I know! We all want to be reassured that after death we will go somewhere, and that when we die it won’t be the end. I don’t think this is true because I think that’s too simple of an idea, but I also think dying and going to heaven is just as simple of an idea. This movie really made me think about what I believe and just kind of confirmed that some of my thoughts aren’t as messed up and strange as I thought they were.

  41. 41 ericaaaa

    I to agree with dancingrl425 that one of my favorite parts of the whole movie was when they did the water experimen. “Kind of makes you think, if you label yourself (not physically, but mentally and spiritually) will you eventually become whatever it is you think you are?” That is a very interesting and important question. We need to start seeing ourselves in a better light and realize the good qualities me have instead of the bad. This would have a huge effect on us more than we think because those feelings affect other things in our body. I think that we are like the people in Plato’s essay The Cave right now because we don’t realize what we are missing by not being positive with ourselves. The part about us being everyone and that everyone is connected is a wonderful theory in my opinion. I think its stems into everything we have been reading about ethics and that we need to care about one another. What better way to put that in perspective than to say we are literally all connected? A lot of what Mark Twin writes about is a result of people not seeing that connection. He believes that everyone is out to just better themselves. This is not the best way to go through life.

  42. the movie to me at times seemed long and confusing. the parts with the molecular science and all that had my head spinning. there were however a few portions that really struck me as interesting.

    first i really liked the part with the little boy and the basketball. the fact that everything around us can be in the different places at the same time is baffling. yet it something that makes sense. we just choose to see it in its place it is now.

    second i liked the part about the snowflakes and water. i really connected to the part that messages of love can transform water into beautiful snowflakes and that messages of hate can make it turn into ugly patterns. and the statement from the old man at the end “if we can do that to water, imagine what we could do to our bodies.” had me really thinking. that if we walk around with neagtive feelings about our bodies, ie too fat, too ugly, too hairy, then our bodies gonna reflect that negativity. but if we show it love and confidence it will grant us with what we love.

    to me those two topics were the parts that stuck out to me. all in all i enjoyed the movie and it really got me thinking after class

  43. 43 robyn123

    After finishing the movie, “What the Bleep Do We Know” I realized how different and hard to comprehend the universe can be. As matticks points out Hawkin’s essay uses similar information as described in the movie to create a basic thesis, “The eventual goal of science is to provide a single theory that describes the whole universe.” So far there is the theory of evolution and of gravity but they continue to change and grow as more evidence is collected. In the dictionary a theory is explained as, “A set of statements or principles devised to explain a group of facts or phenomena, especially one that has been repeatedly tested or is widely accepted and can be used to make predictions about natural phenomena.” Some theories over time can still be proven false; such as the sun revolves around the Earth and that the Earth is flat.

    I enjoy learning about science; it is a big part of my major. I was able to relate some things I gained from the movie into my science class. Around the same time we were watching the movie my science class was discussing the two major theories of how the universe was created. It intrigued me how people formulated these theories and how they were supported. The movie really did not talk about this topic but yet helped give evidence to what I was learning.

  44. 44 jellybeanqueen620

    I found this movie very interesting. Though at first I was skeptical about whether I would be able to get anything out of a movie that seemed so complicated and confusing, looking back there were a few parts that really stuck with me. I especially liked the scene where the woman looks at herself in the pictures from the party and she gets upset because she thinks she is fat. She feels ugly, so she sees an ugly woman. She looks in the mirror and starts screaming at her reflection and you can almost feel her frustration, but then she turns it around. the next scene, she is in the bathtub and has almost completely covered her body with drawings of hearts and flowers and you can see that she feels beautiful and now loves her body. She seems so peaceful and content, and it really showed me that a lot of what we see comes from our attitudes. Because she literally made her into something she considered beautiful, she loved it. It was the same body she hated in the earlier scene, but her mentality changed and her feelings completely turned around. It shows that truth is unique to the individual and is decided mainly in the way we approach the world around us. Our feelings, attitudes, and the circumstances in which we pickup information all effect our perception of what is true and what is real.

  45. 45 texmex18

    Like jess i felt like i could not be more lost for the first part of the movie.
    To be honest i didn’t realized that Amanda is deaf/mute until halfway thru when she starts explaining to her friend about the indian….that was unexpected haha
    But as we got further into the movie it made me see that what the Bleep do we know proposes a very old idea as a shiny new age concept. Rene Descartes and his fairly famous “I think therefore I am.” You can only know you exist for sure, because you can think… all else is questionable (just think the matrix).My favorite part of the movie had to be the message from water scene where the man turns and says “makes you wonder doesnt it?If thoughts can do that to water,imagen what our thoughts can do to us.” This really makes me wonder because 90% of our bodies are made of water.Overall i think this movie was a good idea to watch because it goes more in dept to the whole scientific side of truth.


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